TWXProxy comes with World SSM/PPTing Pack2 scripts, but it doesn't come with normal PPT/SSM Pack2 scripts. The problem with the Pack1 PPT/SSM scripts are the PPT script uses a counter instead of intelligently realizing when to stop trading, and the SSM script doesn't haggle. There are includes for Pack2 SSM and PPTing, but there aren't any scripts using these that come with TWXProxy. I also can't seem to find any tutorials or resources for using these includes. It seems like you just set the variables described in them to what you need to use, but I can't really figure out precisely how to make it work.

I think it would be a great inclusion for TWXProxy if someone wrote SSM and PPT Pack2 TWXProxy scripts and got them to EP for him to include in future versions of TWXProxy. Also, I would appreciate if there is a tutorial or guide somewhere for using these Pack2 includes for someone to let me know.

Maybe I'm completely wrong and these scripts already exist, and if that's true then please let me know!

I'm not sure I am following you as the pack 2 scripts are included in the release as far as I know. The pack 2 scripts start as 2_ and the script name. Download Ck's public script pack from grimytrader.com and try some of those scripts.

               / Promethius / Enigma / Wolfen /

"A man who has no skills can be taught, a man who has no honor has nothing."

I'm saying that the SSM and PPT scripts released with TWXProxy are bad scripts, and that the official TWXProxy release should include PPT and SSM scripts that take advantage of Pack2 includes.

TWX is open source provided by Xide free of charge and several upgrades have been provided by Elder Profit free of charge, so to say they have bad scripts is a bit offensive in my opinion. If you make a request for the change, Elder Profit may have time to make some minor changes. Scripting takes a lot of time and a lot of debugging to get things to work as well as they do. If you'd like more changes than the scripters are willing to devote the time to give you, you might think about learning how to script youself and making the changes needed since the open source is available to everyone.

I think EP actually posted a request for volunteers to 'tune up' the scripts in Packs 1 & 2. IIRC there wasn't exactly a thunderous rush to help him with the project. Xide's script packs have some excellent examples, but I still find the includes pretty arcane.


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I checked out 1_Port and it'll do a ppt routine for ya..you hafta set the 'markup percentage' but after fiddling with that a little, you would know what to put there..
As for SSM, will check it out. Dan, you sure the pack 2_SSM won't work for ya?

Yeah everything works with 1_Port except that you have to set the number of cycles which is almost guaranteed to waste you some turns before you can stop it. I don't see a 2_SSM and I downloaded EP's release within the past week. 1_SSM doesn't haggle, and I guess I could glue together the haggle routines from 1_Port with 1_SSM, but it seems silly when all of those features seem to be present in the Pack2 SSM include. There just hasn't been a port-pair-SSMing script made utilizing that include that's publicly available.

I wasn't demanding that there were fixes implemented immediately or anything. I hadn't seen where anyone else had drawn attention to these scripts, so I made a post on here saying exactly what the problems were and what I thought the solution was. If this isn't the proper medium for that, then I apologize.

No problem. This is the proper place to ask for these things. You just seemed to be a bit demanding in your other post is all. Sometimes the meaning of words written can be misunderstood especially considering many of us are from different areas of the world. No harm no foul and I also apologize for taking your post in the wrong way.

I guess when I summarized for Promethius it did sound kind of snappy .

I am not sure I would call them "bad scripts" because they do not do what you are wanting them to do. They do what they are designed to do and do it well. I could say virtually every script out is a bad script based on a script not doing exactly what I want. The only way to make a script do exactly what you want is to write it yourself.

If you are wanting haggle, then it is very easy to add that to the scripts. To get the best haggle possible, however; takes research and work (EP's haggle for example). My haggle routine is written for a specific type of game, and I do not shoot for the best possible return.

               / Promethius / Enigma / Wolfen /

"A man who has no skills can be taught, a man who has no honor has nothing."

I hate to say it, but I too feel that many of the included scripts are of little or no use today. Many of the Pack 1/2 scripts and includes were written early on, and the language has matured considerably. As a result, many aren't even useful as scripting examples.

Still, I'm not sure it would be acceptable to replace Xide's scripts with my own work. My opinion may change over time, but at the moment I would just like to update those original scripts to accomplish their original effect, but represent modern scripting standards.

I might be willing to write a Pack 2 version of PPT and SSM. It will not be in the very near future though. I'm certainly willing to help if anyone else tackles such scripts.

E.P. I doubt anyone would think ill of you whatever you did to make TWX better. Xide released it in open source for exactly that reason, so people could use it and make it better if needed. Most of Xides scripts were geared for unlimited turn games because that was the type game that attracted attention at that time. Thanks for all you have done in the past and we will all be gratefull for any improvements you feel like making in the future.

i'd recommend just starting a pack 3 set - they could be upgraded versions of ck's or xide's, but preserve the history by not modifying the originals...

I may be wrong but I think I posted a script just like you want in my pack at grimeys.

Check it out.