View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:40 pm



Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
 Playing without scripts or helpers? 

Would you play on a server that doesn't allow scripts or helpers?
Absolutely! 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Yes Possibly 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Probably Not 22%  22%  [ 4 ]
Not A Chance! 61%  61%  [ 11 ]
Total votes : 18

 Playing without scripts or helpers? 
Author Message
Veteran Op

Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:04 pm
Posts: 5025
Unread post Playing without scripts or helpers?
Pretty simple, would you play on a server that would not allow scripts or helpers?


Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:52 am
Profile
Commander
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 01, 2013 11:28 pm
Posts: 1318
Location: Rural Indiana
Unread post Re: Playing without scripts or helpers?
Its funny if you asked me that 3-4 years ago when I first came back to the game after a 15+ year break, I would prob. have said sure. but now after getting my feet wet again and learning all these scripts and how to use them and even taking a crack at writing my own, I would say no. But I think thats part of the problem. for Returning players its kinda like getting thrown to the wolfs unless some one really steps up and takes them under thier wing they are kinda screwed.

We need to figure out a way to bridge that gap better IMO(which is hardly expert)


sk

_________________
Star Killer
USA(RETIRED)
Loyalty Above All Else Except Honor
Playing with integrity is more important than winning
HHT 2015 Champs: Cloud09
2015 Lottery Tournament Winning Team Member
2016 Big Game Draft Tournament Winning Team Member
HHT 2016 Champs: Cloud09
HHT 2021 Champs(Just For Showing Up)
HHT 2022 Champs(For 90mins of Play)

Star Killer's Ice9 TWGS
Viper's Pit V1 TWGS
Website: http://sk-twgs.com
Email: starkillerstwgs@yahoo.com
Discord: Star Killer#0358
Ice 9 V2 TWGS: SK-TWGS.COM PORT 2002
Viper's Pit V1 TWGS: V1.SK-TWGS.COM PORT 2002
Now The Fastest TWGS in the West
https://www.facebook.com/StarKillersTradeWars/
To help offset the server(s) hosting bill donate via PayPal to: starkillerstwgs@yahoo.com


Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:18 am
Profile WWW
Ambassador
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:19 pm
Posts: 2559
Location: Oklahoma City, OK 73170 US
Unread post Re: Playing without scripts or helpers?
I don't think I could play without an auto haggler :)

_________________
Regards,
Micro

Website: http://www.microblaster.net
TWGS2.20b/TW3.34: telnet://twgs.microblaster.net:2002

ICQ is Dead Jim! Join us on Discord:
https://discord.gg/zvEbArscMN


Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:46 am
Profile ICQ YIM WWW
Ambassador
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:00 am
Posts: 4016
Location: USA
Unread post Re: Playing without scripts or helpers?
"IF" I did play 100% manually it would have to be a very low turn game. I'm talking 750 at most.

_________________

BOTE 1998 Champs: Team Fament
HHT 2015 Champs: Cloud09
Big Game 2016 Champs: Draft team
HHT 2018 Champs: Rock Stars
Big Game 2019 Champs: Draft Team


Classic Style Games Here:
telnet://crunchers-twgs.com:2002

Web page from 1990's: https://web.archive.org/web/20170103155645/http://tradewars.fament.com/Cruncher/tradewar.htm
Blog with current server info: http://cruncherstw.blogspot.com
Discord: https://discord.gg/4dja5Z8
E-mail: Cruncherstw@gmail.com
FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/CrunchersTW


Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:40 pm
Profile ICQ WWW
Commander
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 3:00 am
Posts: 1096
Location: Tucson, AZ
Unread post Re: Playing without scripts or helpers?
The only way I would play without scripts is if it were against people I know IRL. And as Cruncher said, a very low turn game. Except I'm thinking more like 250.

_________________
Suddenly you're Busted!


Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:50 am
Profile WWW
Ambassador

Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2001 3:00 am
Posts: 1410
Location: Boo! inc. Ireland
Unread post Re: Playing without scripts or helpers?
I would not play.

That said, it is impossible to detect offline helper use, and scripts can be altered to make many of them undetectable and their use unprovable.


Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:40 pm
Profile
Lieutenant Commander
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:00 am
Posts: 793
Location: Iowa
Unread post Re: Playing without scripts or helpers?
I can see where the impulse to outlaw scripts/helpers is
inspired: A player from the past BBS days wants to try to
recapture the fun of those days.

Problem is that those days are gone. The novelty of chatting
online with another human in realtime has been cheapened by
the latest IM or chat bot, skpe or whatever. Hard to recapture
that rush of contacting another human across the world.


There are enough servers out there that everyone should be free
to make their own niche in the world. Even if it alienates most
current players, a non-helper server could be an answer to some
old timer's prayer. Live and let live.

_________________
#+++
The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
#---


Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:23 pm
Profile ICQ YIM
Ambassador
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:19 pm
Posts: 2559
Location: Oklahoma City, OK 73170 US
Unread post Re: Playing without scripts or helpers?
^^^ Like ^^^

_________________
Regards,
Micro

Website: http://www.microblaster.net
TWGS2.20b/TW3.34: telnet://twgs.microblaster.net:2002

ICQ is Dead Jim! Join us on Discord:
https://discord.gg/zvEbArscMN


Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:02 pm
Profile ICQ YIM WWW
Commander
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:00 am
Posts: 1396
Location: Canada
Unread post Re: Playing without scripts or helpers?
Shoot. If you really want to keep 'helpers' out of a game, there are plenty of TWGS settings that would help make this happen; not the least of which: would be to Turn on *all* Delays; High Steal Factor, Planets that hold miniscule amounts of product/fighters; minimal production; Low Max-cmds; etc. etc.

This wont guarantee manual game play, but it would even the playing field.

_________________
----------------------------
-= QUANTUM Computing 101: 15 = 3 x 5 ... 48% of the time.
-= There are 10 types of people in the world: Those that understand Binary and those who do not
-= If Oil is made from Dinosaurs, and Plastic is made from Oil... are plastic Dinosaurs made from real Dinosaurs?
-= I like to keep my friends and my enemies rich, and wait to see which is which - Tony Stark (R.I.P.)


Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:26 pm
Profile ICQ YIM
Veteran Op

Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:04 pm
Posts: 5025
Unread post Re: Playing without scripts or helpers?
Now that most everyone else has commented I'll voice my opinion.

I don't have a problem with players that would rather play by hand or play without agressive scripts. What I have a problem with is those players and sysops trying to force thier game style on me and the game I've known for the last 10 or 15 years. This is just two different styles of play and to each his own style. What peaves me is when someone says I don't know how to play the game because I use scripts to play it for me. I have news for those people. I started playing by hand because that's all there was when I started playing Tradewars. I know the game pretty much inside out, most of the formulas, and I can play almost any aspect of the game very well. I just prefer to play the game the way it has evolved over the years and not go back in time to 1990. Choose the game or server that is right for you.


Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:25 am
Profile
Lieutenant Commander
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:00 am
Posts: 793
Location: Iowa
Unread post Re: Playing without scripts or helpers?
Quote:
If you really want to keep 'helpers' out of a game, there are plenty of TWGS settings that would help make this happen; not the least of which: would be to Turn on *all* Delays; High Steal Factor, Planets that hold miniscule amounts of product/fighters; minimal production; Low Max-cmds; etc. etc.


I agree there are settings that make it uncomfortable for modern gameplay.
Unfortunately they also make it awkward/uncomfortable to play by hand as
well. A sysop shouldn't have to use these settings. I think that is really the
point we should discuss. If a sysop makes a rule for his server,
can't we just agree to abide by that rule? Of course you can make a
script that simulates a human hunting and pecking. Of course you can set up a
series of responses to a human on Fedcomm, but should you?

Quote:
I just prefer to play the game the way it has evolved over the years and not go back in time to 1990. Choose the game or server that is right for you.


Vote with your feet if you don't like server rules, but let's try to
play within the bounds of the sysop's wishes.

Edit: PS I do think the sysop has a responsibility to his/her
players to make sure the rules are clear and outlined
in the game bang announcement.

_________________
#+++
The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
#---


Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:14 pm
Profile ICQ YIM
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 11 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 25 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by STSoftware.