Wait before you said you booted me because I quit?

Now you are saying it was for different reasons.

That's 2 lies I see a pattern is developing.

As a player we don't decide which bugs to use and which not to use. We don't use any because it is against the rules and we play with honor. Obviously some players, such as some of those on Shadow's corp for the tourney, did not play with honor and did not follow the rules and therefore his entire team was deleted for bug use.

Those are the facts. That is what happened.

Now the same individual who used the bugs, Rider the op, is crying about allegedly getting cheated at Vid's Server. That takes a lot of nerve coming from him and I won't stay silent for it.

If i was speeding by 1 mph and got a ticket for it and then convicted, I would be guilty of speeding. I wouldn't come back later and say I never got a speeding ticket. That is exactly what is happening here.

And just because someone works in the corporate world, where lies are spoken all day long, that's how they operate in life, does not mean they come in here and lie.

In addition, there is probably a pattern of narcissism and bullying based on the insults to me for pointing out some facts. Classic example of a High Performance, Low Trust individual.

I wasn't going to comment on this or even read it. But when people start using words like "Those are the facts" without having or knowing or trying to distort them i get annoyed.

As the Game Op of the tourney in question I will tell you what happened. Shadow's corp what NOT deleted for 'cheating'. At the time I removed them the entire corp was already SD. I was ask by the CEO's of each of the other remaining corps to remove the dead players. Why? because for some reason players that where SD where still gaining exp. 1 point per day. I do not know why or how if it is a bug or not. certainly had no effect on the game other then being an annoyance. So since the corp was dead and had no effect on the outcome of the game i removed them. and that is why.
Those are the REAL Facts.

Someone here is implying that Shadows corp was removed for an active game for cheating which is a flat out distortion of the truth. I hope this puts end to this.

-sk

I was also asked to post this by Farley since he can't post here and I really dont see the harm.

"As much as I do not like shadow and his crew, I do have to say that the details preston has presented are not entirely accurate. shadows team was unable to enter the game at bang, and Hammers corp got an early advantage. This was due to a server issue. Yes, rider (IIRC) did use a bug at that point, but their team elected to sit out based on the startup as well as Hammers team electing to decline a restart. They were not deleted for this bug use, but rather because they had decided not to play. Not uncommon to delete players that are not participating, as they can effect the game"

Let's clarify the facts shall we.

You were asked to remove dead players only AFTER Rider was using the bug, which was effecting the play of the people who were actually playing the game.

No one gave two craps about the dead players until it became a problem. Hammer asked Rider to stop and he didn't. So Hammer escalated and got you to delete Shadow's team, for bug use.

If you are gaining free exp 1 point at at a time while not in the game, clearly a bug.

Don't try and twist this around. It is very clear what happened, at least to me.

Farely can admit at least Rider was using a bug.

If the team elected to sit out, why was Rider fooling around in game using bugs after 3 weeks?

I do not agree, based on the timing of when they were deleted, that they were deleted for the reason of being inactive.

Star Killer deleted Shadow's team after 3 weeks, in a 30 day game, so don't hand me this lie about deleting inactive teams. You don't wait 3 weeks to do it.

Star Killer seriously though, if are saying now that you don't know if what Rider did was a bug, you have no business hosting TW tournaments. I'm not trying to insult you here just being honest with you.

Yeah after 3 weeks in a 30 day game the dead players are removed.

Sure lol. You guys crack me up.

Here is Hammer's post thanking SK for taking care. Certainly appears that Shadow's team was deleted specifically for actions of Rider's SBOT who instead of stopping made it 20 times worse.

But yeah the reason was because on Day 19, they were inactive. Yeah sure.

The post states they "quit a long time ago" but no one deleted them for 3 weeks.

LOL I knew posting a comment would get this reply.

Simple question. Who do you think people are going to believe? You? or the person who was hosting the tourney.

Okay im done back to the sidelines....LOL

sk

If you were consistent with your Day 19 inactive player deletions I couldn't say a Darn thing.

But you are not consistent. Why? because you don't have a policy in place for inactive player deletion.

Might be a good idea to institute one now, then you can quickly get back to all the other trustworthy and incorruptible things that you do, if there are any.

Its very sad. This thread does not remotely live up to the standards set by the Great Big TW Flamers of the past. Is scripting to blame, or just general malaise?

The posters would benefit from some of the Guides freely available.
https://www.fantasyfootballdraft.com/fa ... k_talk.asp - has some great pointers. Lessons include:
- use of derogatory nicknames
- inflammatory trash talk
- tasteless signature lines
plus near endless other valuable suggestions to keep the pot boiling.

For TW specific examples, look no farther than the Wayback Machine twgs.org records. It didn't save much, but there are some good bits.
https://web.archive.org/web/2016*/twgs.org

haha Kav, nice to see you are around and I love the dry humour

I was actually on TWGS.org archive a while back or should I say the "Res Judicate Flame Room".