Ok, this is a newbie questin but my corp's base just got overrun yesterday 5 planets all lvl 1 with a lvl 2 coming up today, the game is only about 10 days old but they took about 8 million credits from the citadel and left a nasty surprise, 10K figs and 500 mines (2 sectors) nobody was in our base when it was taken over but we lost all our spare ships, 2 COLTS and 2 MERFS. so here's the predicament:
I'm the only red in a corp of 3
Other 2 blues we're colonizing in ISSes
1.5 million creds in bank
LOTS of gold aliens to go evil with.
>>What should we do?
1) retake and try to hold it? (the other mostly Red corp is much stronger than us)
2) start a new base (Terra is pretty low)
3) have everybody go red? (All of us are newbies)
4) other?

thanks for any input

PAX is Peace

Been there...What usually (I repeat USUALLY) works for me in similar situations is all go red, make a bazillion or so credits and buy 10x those ftrs and take whatever you want.

Seriously, it really depends on the game setup and edits. Most experienced players I play with would have stripped the planets they took from you, so there is probably nothing to take back. Go on the offense, find someone elses' base and take it...

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Edited by - severian on April 06 2002 02:28:36 AM

Edited by - severian on April 06 2002 02:30:05 AM

Most of the time when someone invades you, they take all your collies and blow up the planets. There's not much sense in wasting resources taking your planets back, because the red corp will be able to easily take them from you again. I would build some new bases, isolated from one another to keep this sort of thing from happening again. And I'm sure you don't need to be told about keeping money in your cits like that.

Suddenly you're Busted!

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Ok, this is a newbie questin but my corp's base just got overrun yesterday 5 planets all lvl 1 with a lvl 2 coming up today, the game is only about 10 days old but they took about 8 million credits from the citadel and left a nasty surprise, 10K figs and 500 mines (2 sectors) nobody was in our base when it was taken over but we lost all our spare ships, 2 COLTS and 2 MERFS. so here's the predicament:
I'm the only red in a corp of 3
Other 2 blues we're colonizing in ISSes
1.5 million creds in bank
LOTS of gold aliens to go evil with.
>>What should we do?
1) retake and try to hold it? (the other mostly Red corp is much stronger than us)
2) start a new base (Terra is pretty low)
3) have everybody go red? (All of us are newbies)
4) other?


No. 1 never keep anything of value (other than colos) until Lev 2 is built and planet can be loaded with figs.... as was said earlier, your planets are long gone... Do your best to compete, but against an all red corp, you cannot compete against that earning potential. Do your best to make a nuisance of yourself, and use this game as learning for next game. Losing a game will teach you far more than winning...

Daemon
Memphis TW BBS
ICQ# 99772936


High Competition and High Risk - Just the place to relax

Note - I already told PAX a lot of this over AIM, just thought I'd re-iterate here to try to draw some comments....

TW is a game of economic warfare. You gotta make more than your enemies to win. So, you need your corp to go all red and SST like mad, and at the same time find a way to stop the other corp's SSTing activities. the other corp has 1 blue, so you can theoretically make 50% more a day than them. IMO, if you're too small to kill their reds (who are probably in fully armed ships most of the time), find them and p-torp them. That'll stop them from SSTing for 24hrs (if you are lucky enough to hit them with full turns). Put limpits all around SD to find them. Their blue probably sleeps in fedspace, so you could give him the Nav-Haz special. He'll have to have less than 100 figs, so 100% navhaz will kill him (unless he's got a lot of shields, but if they are winning like you say, they may have gotten lazy with shields maintenance). Since you no longer have a base, it's silly to have you all sleep in the same sector. Sleep seperate, and leave a good defense of figs and mines to guard your SST ships at night. Also, move around their storage location and remember to check them for limpits.

Lastly, spend your money, don't save it. If that 8M you lost had been spent on figs you woulda dealt them some serious economic damage when they tried to take your base. It's ok to put a little bit away for a rainy day when you need a new ship, but spend the rest and you wont have rainy days.

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Their blue probably sleeps in fedspace, so you could give him the Nav-Haz special. He'll have to have less than 100 figs, so 100% navhaz will kill him (unless he's got a lot of shields, but if they are winning like you say, they may have gotten lazy with shields maintenance


100% haz will do 1000 damage.

Thanks for all the input, as for what happened, the blue is sitting in fedspace, with a maxed ISS so couldnt really hit 'em there, umm . . . we all went red, the other 2 guys had no exp so we had to start from scratch, used a day and a half to trade and gain exp/money then started SSTing, we had 2 COLTs tucked away to SST with when they killed those too. Now we don't even have money in the bank and my CFS is destroyed . . . we out of the game? I think so. =/ well, once again, thanks for the help but we're only newbies. Next game.

PAX is Peace

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Thanks for all the input, as for what happened, the blue is sitting in fedspace, with a maxed ISS so couldnt really hit 'em there, umm . . . we all went red, the other 2 guys had no exp so we had to start from scratch, used a day and a half to trade and gain exp/money then started SSTing, we had 2 COLTs tucked away to SST with when they killed those too. Now we don't even have money in the bank and my CFS is destroyed . . . we out of the game? I think so. =/ well, once again, thanks for the help but we're only newbies. Next game.


you are never out of the game so long as you can get to SD and/or other Class 0 ports and you can make money. If the leading corp gets lazy at all about e-probing and stopping competition, you can still start making major cash within a few days. If they ARE good about searching out and destroying ColTs, park them in fedspace and have someone on for extern...

Daemon
Memphis TW BBS
ICQ# 99772936


High Competition and High Risk - Just the place to relax