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| Author: | Kaus [ Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Grid Defense |
I'm in a game where I'm getting frustrated by my lack of ability to defend my grid well enough. Admitedly my reasources are public (Mom, etc) and have been more than ok in the past. Looks to be some sort of 2 ship gridder OR a planet gridder. Eitherway I am unable to defend my grid well enough with the reasources I have. Any ideas how to overcome a better ping/script? Better yet how to combat a 2 ship gridder/Pgridder? |
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| Author: | Singularity [ Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Defense |
Depends on which one they're doing... there are ways to overcome both. Is there an empty ship sitting in the sector w/ them? Is there a planet? Is there both? |
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| Author: | Kaus [ Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Defense |
Singularity wrote: Depends on which one they're doing... there are ways to overcome both. Is there an empty ship sitting in the sector w/ them? Is there a planet? Is there both? Normally a empty ship, I believe there using CK-twoship grid, though i would like to learn for both situations how to over come either a pgridders or two ship photon. |
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| Author: | Singularity [ Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Defense |
Quote: Normally a empty ship, I believe there using CK-twoship grid, though i would like to learn for both situations how to over come either a pgridders or two ship photon. CK 2 ship is a PoS, you should be able to go adj and just dtorp and catch them. For pgridding it's trickier, for 2 ship pgridding... well that's even trickier still. You'll usually need to write a few scripts for it all to come together, get used to timing stuff and the like. |
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| Author: | ElderProphet [ Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Defense |
I *think* that a well-written 2-ship gridder is the hardest thing to nail... and I mean that from the script writer's perspective too. I wrote most of one once, and figured out a few ways to make it seemingly bullet-proof, though grossly inefficient with turns. Still, turns wasted on the grid beat turns lost to ptorps. What public (or private) 2-ship gridders are there? And are they well done. +EP+ |
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| Author: | Singularity [ Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Defense |
Quote: I *think* that a well-written 2-ship gridder is the hardest thing to nail... and I mean that from the script writer's perspective too. I wrote most of one once, and figured out a few ways to make it seemingly bullet-proof, though grossly inefficient with turns. Still, turns wasted on the grid beat turns lost to ptorps. Can be, but I've managed to solve most of that problem. Xport actually has a small delay because of the way windows handles the process. On top of that you can't prevent someone from capping your ship, which gets expensive. Quote: What public (or private) 2-ship gridders are there? And are they well done. None. The few public ones out there are pointless. The only thing close is ram's 2 ship planet grid. |
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| Author: | LoneStar [ Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Defense |
Kaus wrote: I'm in a game where I'm getting frustrated by my lack of ability to defend my grid well enough. Admitedly my reasources are public (Mom, etc) and have been more than ok in the past. Looks to be some sort of 2 ship gridder OR a planet gridder. Eitherway I am unable to defend my grid well enough with the reasources I have. Any ideas how to overcome a better ping/script? Better yet how to combat a 2 ship gridder/Pgridder? for 2ship gridding.. make a script to pwarp adj, launch a dtorp right away.. my ping is crap on many servers, as a result I have rewritten a private script that does this, and it does work well. to overcome bad ping in general you should take into consideration a few things: + size of your grid --if grid is small, can work to your benefit with respect to prediction or a few other 'tactics' + tracking --a pain, but you can develope script/ability to track figs hits to determine a pettern and work from there + limps --something there I can't go into cause I'm not authorized --top secret.. but maybe someone more elite than me can fill you in. heh + remove safeties --make a bare bones, super simple foton script that has non of the usual safeties (ie: alien filter, anti spoof, textTrigger, etc) Probably more but I can't think of any atm. Ideally getting someone to pod twice will put them on the sideline for the rest of the day.. getting a kill would mean open season on their grid. guess what I'm saying is it's sometimes better to frustrate a gridder than to stop them outright. |
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